Trial and error happens here, no guts no glory. Our motto is ask questions and don't think to long on starting a new bender, cause if you don't try now you never will....

Friday, January 27, 2012

Screen Printing for Coop Queen


The storm of January 2012 will go  down in the history of  62 Packard as the year we were stuck at the house with lots of time on our hands, and lots of hands on deck.  Luckily, we had projects to tackle.  We had bought some silk screening materials for messing around with our logo for boxes and t-shirts.  We got the mylar , the ink, the photo chemicals for screen printing and we were ready.  Tim and Anna were the ones who took  over.
The shop was cold but the first project of the morning was getting the woodstove fired up.  After a serious breakfast of cornbread pancakes we went out and started production.
There was alot of corn pancakes and alot of fire and coffee powering this operation.

We got the technique down . These are the boxes for our fountainhead poultry waterers.  The t-shirts were also fun.  We will be making up some, but are still waffling on colors .  We have a couple screens to experiment wi

Friday, December 9, 2011

Turkeys in December

Heritage turkeys are entertaining.  This is the first year they have lived in our yard.  They are a pleasure to have around.  Now they are growing up.  They are like 20 weeks old.    They love grapes and pears.  They are so happy running around holding a whole pear, trying to eat the whole thing.

Benjamin Franklin was famous for suggesting that turkeys be the national bird, not the eagle. Apparently the bald eagle took 6 years ot pick out as the national emblem.   Here is his reasoning quoted in a letter to his daughter in 1784.  I found this inWikipedia. 

For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him. With all this Injustice, he is never in good Case but like those among Men who live by Sharping & Robbing he is generally poor and often very lousy. Besides he is a rank Coward: The little King Bird not bigger than a Sparrow attacks him boldly and drives him out of the District. He is therefore by no means a proper Emblem for the brave and honest Cincinnati of America who have driven all the King birds from our Country...
I am on this account not displeased that the Figure is not known as a Bald Eagle, but looks more like a Turkey. For in Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America... He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on.




"For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the fishing hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him. With all this Injustice, he is never in good Case but like those among Men who live by Sharping & Robbing he is generally poor and often very lousy. Besides he is a rank Coward: The little king birds not bigger than a Sparrow attacks him boldly and drives him out of the District. He is therefore by no means a proper Emblem for the brave and honest cincinnati of America who have driven all the King birds from our Country...
I am on this account not displeased that the Figure is not known as a Bald Eagle, but looks more like a Turkey. For in Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America... He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on.


These heritage turkeys, although not wild are definitely getting  acclimated with time.  They are very observant.  When a grape comes in their cage they get very excited.  If a worm or insect gets tossed in, they notice.   Recently they have been escaping , first just sitting on the fence, then yesterday I found them near their buddies , but enjoying foraging in the wild wide world.  They are very much a flock animal and do not like being away from the others.
Where these turkeys are located there are also flocks of wild turkeys.  I am afraid the males might be in trouble if they start exploring in the neighborhood.  The wild males might feel threatened.   We clipped their wings recently, but not all of their wings.  We have 11 of them and 4 chukkers. I guess the job of the weekend is to recheck clipping their wings and make their fenced area fenced higher. 

When they are full grown we are going to butcher all but 3 or 4.  One male and 3 females.  It will be fun to see if we get little ones. 

The waterer has been freezing lately, bummer.  So we have a aquarium heater in the 5 gallon bucket.  It has been in the low 20's.  I guess we will have to put the bucket inside to try that.  I set up a water bucket with nipples directly that seems to dethaw during the morning, but the nippleator is not fool proof in cold weather as of yet.....
Project plans, bring water bucket inside and test if it freezes the hose inside, and then make the fence higher for the turkeys.



When clipping their wings we had to be careful not to cut to close. 

 

Saturday, November 12, 2011

Putting a bulkhead fitting into a bucket




 
 We are pretty excited about watering the birds without having to go into the coop.    But the bulkhead fitting into the bucket could be used for a rain barrel too, or whatever you want.  The buckets should have a lid so leaves and debris don't go in.  Here are some pictures of the buckets we put together for our two watering set ups.  The bucket we are using is  a food grade bucket with no labels.   Those are not easy to find unless you order from Azure standards or somewhere else like them.  I like the tight fitting lid too.  We plan on cutting a small hole in the lid to let the rainwater in and hopefully keep most of the debris out.  The nipple drinkers can get plugged with any debris in water.
1 and a half inch hole bit to drill out the bulkhead fitting hole.


visual on which end goes in bucket


The outside of the bucket will look like this


And now the double male 3/4 fitting and 3/4 fitting to hose fitting




And now all together.




 The next phase will be the bull dog water bucket holder.

Sunday, October 30, 2011

Heritage Turkey raising

Today was one of those early fall days, misty and rainy.   We hung out at home and did our favorite homebody fall chores.  We moved and stacked our locust firewood,  mulched the vegtable  bed and planted garlic, and last but not least had a little bonfire.  It was nice to get our hands dirty for a change of pace.  What a nice weekend!!!
One of the big projects this year has been the turkeys.  Last spring we decided to do another batch of turkeys.   The reasoning behind 20 turkeys was we raised 6 last year and we so enjoyed cooking them in our la CAJA China  box, more turkeys, more get togethers.We are also selling some and traded a couple  away.  Blueberries for turkey works for me.   We are keeping 8 or 10 in the freezer.  Yummy.
This adventure has set us on a path of new and amusing perdicaments, none of which I am unhappy about.   

We got 20 turkey poults from McMurray Hatchery this July.  They earned my repeat business by their excellent customer service.    When one arrived dead and another 3/4 dead  they happily  returned the money for the two.

From Left to right, Black Spanish,  Midget White, and Bourbon Red about 13 weeks old 

  Anyway it was a mix and I thought I had received 5 white broadbreasted , and 5 bronze turkeys in the mix, but to my surprise the white ones were the smallest turkeys. Instead I got 5 Naragansetts, and 4 Midget White Turkeys, not to mention, 4 Black Spanish turkeys and 4 Bourbon Red turkeys.   Anyway, the turkeys  are  calm, friendly, and generally amusing.  The most friendly have been the Naragansetts, so today after cleaning their pen and giving them their squash leaves,  we decided  to keep one male and the two hens of the Naragansetts.  We would like to see if we can raise the poults.  Lets see , they will be 9 months April 14th, and maybe they will start laying then. 


From left to right, Bourbon Red , two Naragansetts
 Our set up is one  of those metal carports.  It is 24 by 24 and we have half of it set up for the turkeys.  They also have a 140 sq foot coop for roosting and eating in.    They are pretty happy in there, breezy, not to much sun in the summer, which is a trick here in Underwood.  The highlight of our morning is watching them joyously flap and fly when we let them out of their coop in the morning.    .

We feed them a mix of alfalfa and turkey feed, then any greenery we can.  Also bugs and worms when we can.

 So  improvements today were cleaning up all the uneaten vines, and the most exciting of all was the bamboo gutter leading into our 5 gallon bucket.  So now in the winter we can just expect rain water to fill our bucket from the run off from the roof, okay so it is little Dr Seussy, but oh my how fun.  Here are some pictures of the set up.  Now we have the inside and outside waterer, and the gutter running into the bucket.  The turkeys stay drier and hydrated without turning on the hose. This kills two birds with one stone, so to speak.

Water in the bucket

Happy water drops down to bucket
Needless to say we are pleased with our latest upgrade and our decision to keep three of the turkeys for next spring  breeding experiment.

Thursday, October 27, 2011

Option 2 Gravity Flow water options

 Beta Testing Wall at our house
The chicken watering nipples can be used in 3 ways we know of.  One is to be attached directly to a bucket and put in the coop or the yard.   The second way is to  use a bucket to store water outside of the coop, or the third way is to  set up with a nippleator a low flow pressure reducer and a simple garden hose with no bucket  We like and show examples of the second way, with water storage outside the coop and the nippleator inside.  There are several pictures here to illustrate mounting the nippleator, and several pictures to show either inside/outside waterer and simple either one way valves.  We like the shut off valve on the bucket so we can take easily take off the nippleator or move it.  Now we are pictruring the turkeys, and they are sort of messy drinkers.  We happen to be raising 22 turkeys, well 18 now,  after Monday.  They have a waterer in and out.  We like it in both places for night time and early morning sips.  They spend most of their time outside during the day. 
Here are the pictures.  As usual, please feel free to comment on these set ups and if you try something else, please share.


Single hose for water inside of coop

double hose for inside and outside watering 

Mounting bracket is screwed into 2 by 4 in wall of coop.


1.5 inch by 1.5 inch wood with zip ties to hold nippleator in place.


Simple wood block to space out and metal plumbing hanger.


The turkeys really seem to like the fresh water from the nippleator.  We are happy we changed them over to it.  They really learned fairly quick, like in a half hour.  We just had to show them that water came out.  They were curious about it.  The red color is supposed to attract them.  It is fun to see the turkeys race out of their coop in the morning, flapping and flying, then they go over to snack on their alfalfa and take a sip of clean water. Life is good in Underwood.


Wednesday, October 26, 2011

Directions for putting nipples into pipe


OPTION 1 Starting with chicken watering nipples
The nipples are designed for low pressure systems.  The maximum water pressure is to be 5.5 psi. (pounds per square inch).  There are two ways to get water to the nipples.  The first one, which we do not suggest is thru a hose and a pressure reducing valve put into the connection between the hose and the brass adapter.  The second way is to hook up the hose to a water container like a bucket.  We tried a couple methods and scoured the internet to figure out how to make them not leak in the joints.  We realize this is not necessarily the best method, but it is the best we could think of.  Please add your input.

Here are the supplies you will need to get this part of the chicken waterer built.  Call it what you will, a nippleator, or a canteen, but what it does is deliver the water to the birds.  The supply list is as follows:  
Parts list for assembly for 4 nipples:  3/4 inch pvc pipe, 3/4 pvc end cap, 3/4 slip joint to threaded 3/4 female, garden hose to length, brass threaded male 3/4 inch to garden hose thread le.
Tools List: saw for plastic,  tape measure, pencil, straight edge, drill, 11/32 drill bit, tap and handle with a 10mm x 1mm pitch.  This was bought here at the local hardware store for $12.00,pipe wrench.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

Step 1.  Cut the 3/4inch pipe so it has 2 inches on either end and then 6 inches between nipples.

Mark a straight line on the pipe.
                                              Step 2   Put a x where the nipples will go.

                                             Step 3  Drill the nipple holes and try to hold pipe still.
Step 4 Use tap to thread the pipe.  Try to hold at a perpendicular angle to pipe.

Step 5 Wrap teflon tape arouond nipples.  Wrap teflon tape 3 or 4 times around nipple in the opposite direction of the threads.
Step 6.  Be careful to only tighten once or twice past hand tight.
Step 7 Glue the ends.  Put primer on first.



  Step 8 Put teflon tape on the male end of the 3/4 inch threaded brass fitting.
                                                        Done!

Tuesday, October 25, 2011

Coopqueen Waterer Introduction

   Whom here has washed chicken or turkey poop off a waterer on a cold morning?  It ain't fun. Why not try something new?  Below are the results of this very important revelation.
   We looked and saw that nipple waterers for  chickens were being used.  I did not like the 5 gallon bucket which goes directly in the pen, too messy.  The goal was clean feet for me and clean water for the birds.    We bought and tried a couple types of nipples and thought out the plumbing set up.  Steve has  set up watertanks at work.  Those water tanks deal with 100s of fish, frogs, and crayfish.   So we used that experience to put these together, using good fixtures.  There are drips from this kind of waterer.  We still like using it.  95% drips are from the birds drinking     They are eager drinkers. 
   It helped to have a shop to experiment in. The drill press,  the chop saw, the table saw, the marvel#2, flat surfaces to work on, all  helped immensely. For the last month we have refined our waters testing them on 22 turkeys, 4 chukkars and 27 cornish crosses.  It is with much excitement we have done this.  The turkeys and the chickens love the fresh water.
In the next blogs we will be fleshing out the directions to put these together with photos and instructions.  We would like very much any input you can give us from your experiences.  Thanks and have fun!

   We want our birds happy and we are trying to provide them with clean water and food first. I will write more about feed, but did you know they love alfalfa hay?

 The waterer keeps them occupied and they like fresh water. Each option will be a seperate post.  These will be printed in our favorite posts, Option 1, Option 2, and Option 3.   

Option 1. For those do it your selfers that like to experiement there are just the nipples.
 Option 2 is just the pipe with 2 or 4 nipples in it.   This comes ready to hook in a hose and you can figure out the rest.  Just look at three too.
Option 3 is the exact set up we have, all you do is open the box and pull out the screw gun to mount it on the wall and set it up inside or outside your hen house.These we will sell in the 2 and 4 nipple version.  With the deluxe version having.... inside and out waterers.
 
To install this yourself here are the instructions
1.  Nipples only .
 Pick the number of nipples you want to use first.   We suggest 2 for less than 6 birds and 4 for 12 -15 birds. 
Actual plumbing 
Here is a list of what you need  .  Teflon Tape, pvc glue, saw, rag, 2 feet of  3/4 inch pipe , 11/16 drill bit,
fitting joints
3/4" cap fitting
3/4" slip joint to 3/4" threaded female
brass hose fitting
Order some nipples and get started!